Illegal aliens are net tax consumers -- by many tens of thousands.

In California illegals fill the jails -- they make up more than 1/3 of the jail population in LA county.

The massive ignorance of most economists writing on the topic of the illegal aliens is massive and embarrassing for the profession of economics.

The high school graduation rate in Los Angeles is around 40%. The illegitimacy rate is over 50%. These are not the social statistics of a healthy nation.

I agree that the US should essentially open its borders to immigrants and spend the money we're using now on the Border Patrol and so forth in other areas. A couple of items that may be of interest include a recent story in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer which described how farmers in Eastern Washington are shifting their production to crops that can be harvested by machines because "many farms are going begging for migrant labor"; and an LA Times story which asserts that "Mexican women now average 2.2 births — only slightly above the average 2.1 births that occur in the United States and that are considered the "replacement rate"...the implication being that the supply of Mexican citizens is going to shrink significantly and therefore illegal immigration will be less of an issue.

Wiithout immigrants america would not be america! right now peopple run there mouth talkin bout we stiill their jobs but tha truth iis immigrants are doiing the jobs americans are to dam lazy ta do! so all ii gotta say iis iif we are stealiin ur jobs than you klean ur own dam bathroom, buiild ur own houses and mow ur own dam lawns! than lets see iif you really want them gone! iit takes more than a dam briidge built over the border ta stop us! who you thiink gunna buiild iit n e ways! thas riite a MEXICAN!

Wiithout immigrants america would not be america! right now peopple run there mouth talkin bout we stiill their jobs but tha truth iis immigrants are doiing the jobs americans are to dam lazy ta do! so all ii gotta say iis iif we are stealiin ur jobs than you klean ur own dam bathroom, buiild ur own houses and mow ur own dam lawns! than lets see iif you really want them gone! iit takes more than a dam briidge built over the border ta stop us! who you thiink gunna buiild iit n e ways! thas riite a MEXICAN!

I dont understand why a bunch of uneducated illiterate people(aliens) are trying to discuss politics on this site. Half of you can't even spell (including you Scott Peterson an uneducated American) whose education tax funds are obvisouly being spent on illegal immigrants. This is what is really going on... Most illegal immigrants do not pay taxes therefore more tax money is being spent than what is actually being put into our tax funds. Unfortunately the major problem is not just about illegal immigrants it's about our President and his stupid war. There is an issue to discuss. I don't have a problem with diversity but the thing is that the American people are losing out on benefits that they pay for. It's a lot like giving to an organization that does not give back. Let's say that you give money to your insurance agency but when you got in a wreck they did not give any money to you for your car or your medical bills. Americans pay taxes, Illegal immigrants cannot because they will get caught by the government and deported. However illegal immigrants can recieve tax benefits from the government without paying taxes. End result; people who play by the rules lose. My best advice to illegal immigrants is to over throw your government and make your economy better on your own instead of screwing up ours.

I don't understand why a bunch of uneducated illiterate people(aliens) are trying to discuss politics on this site. Half of you can't even spell (including you Scott Peterson an uneducated American) whose education tax funds are obvisouly being spent on illegal immigrants. This is what is really going on... Most illegal immigrants do not pay taxes therefore more tax money is being spent than what is actually being put into our tax funds. Unfortunately the major problem is not just about illegal immigrants it's about our President and his stupid war. There is an issue to discuss. I don't have a problem with diversity but the thing is that the American people are losing out on benefits that they pay for. It's a lot like giving to an organization that does not give back. Let's say that you give money to your insurance agency but when you got in a wreck they did not give any money to you for your car or your medical bills. Americans pay taxes, Illegal immigrants cannot because they will get caught by the government and deported. However illegal immigrants can recieve tax benefits from the government without paying taxes. End result; people who play by the rules lose. My best advice to illegal immigrants is to over throw your government and make your economy better on your own instead of screwing up ours.

I agree with Scott. Most Americans won't we think about cleaning a toilet for more than $50. Immigrants will gladly do it for $5. They aren't stealing our jobs if no one wats to do them. And it isn't always fair for them either. If they want a job and so does an American, guess you will more likely to get the job: the American! Put yourslef in their shoes. How would you feel?

Americans are arrogant and racists. Arrogant racists (even if collage educated)are fools. Examples: Japan, Germany and Italy of WW2 who destroy themselves. America is losing to global markets in every way. Farming (which is still a strong industry employees about 3 million illegals. It also creates about 12 million up side and down side jobs in America. These up side jobs are held by "good white Americans". Thats 240,ooo jobs that each of the 50 states will lose. This racist card you "good white people" are playing is a "LOSER" card. As a racist nation (protecting your good white ways) we will witness what history has already shown (you are educated...right?). The destruction of a country by it's own ignorants. You white people are slick talkers but in the end...you will repeat history. Educated? Not enough to keep yourselves from repeating history....what history you ask?
The economic downfall of America. Question? Am I a racists or just talking history. It's to late for America as a nation. You racists taken a stance and hardened your position as an ignorant core. The core has become hard and self destruction is the only outcome. No way you say? Thats what all racists said before they destroyed themselves.
Am I wrong? Ask your "good white farmers"..oh yeah thats right...their supposed to raise their pay so you "good white folk" will work for them. The farmers just want cheap labor....of course!

yo scram chill out and learn how to spell b4 u get bundled...internet thuggggggin

Uh, most Americans aren't racist. With 20 million illegal immigrants in the country, we can't allow even the legal ones to move in now cause there just isn't enough room and finances for them all.

Is it racist to prefer the legal immigrants to the illegal ones? No, because the legal immigrants show a respect for the law, so they are much more likely to obey it once they move here.

they are sweet

they are sweet

they are sweet

Why should we as a country be allowed to keep people out when we ourselves stole this land that we call "ours" from its rightful owners? (Including Mexicans!) Illegal immigrants bring in over $300 billion to our economy every year. Newsflash, they would pay taxes and everything if we would let them become citizens. The problem with this country is that everyone is so ignorant, no one sees what problems we are causing for other countries to make it so that they have to come here to try and make very small amounts of money that we would all stick our noses up to. The IMF and other organizations help make it so that messed up economies cannot get any better. Try to learn something and watch the movie "Life in Debt". We don't give these countries any other choice.. once they are in debt it's nearly impossible to get out. So much for us being the great country we all want to be, why do you think other countries hate us now? We must be doing something wrong. I would advise that you all do research before you post stupid blogs with your opinions that are just a reiteration of what the media is telling you to think.

I have no problem with immigrants. America was founded on immigrants. It was NOT however, founded on ILLEGAL immigrants. While it may be true that we have a small net gain in tax revenue on the federal level from illegal immigrants who pay into SS and will never get anything back - there is a HUGE loss on the local and state level of taxes for illegals. That extra SS money the feds get is not going to miraculously end up in the hands of the County of Los Angeles or the County of San Diego where illegal immigrants create BILLIONS of dollars of tax deficit.
Anyone who doesn't think Illegals get free healthcare (emergency treatment) and who doesn't think that illegals get food stamps and who doesn't think that illegals get free schooling is obviously living in a dream world. They do NOT pay into the system as much as they take out except in one area - Social Security. Believe me, if the feds weren't raking in so much coin on illegals to help prop the limping Social Security system, they would deport them all today.

I just LOVE the argument that they do the jobs that others wont do. Well, guess what? Before there were so many illegal aliens who work for nothing those jobs were filled by students and unskilled americans - at MUCH HIGHER wages. All illegal immigration did is wipe out an entire viable source of income for Americans. Its true most wont work for peanuts now, but hell even I worked in the California fields in Almond and Peach orchards when I was young - along with high school kids and many others. Illegal Immigration has CAUSED the low wages, so dont even start with that argument.

people come to america to live a better life my mother came here because of war and thank u america for accepting her but what abought the other mother and familys that are trying to come here america just dont understand the struggle immigrants go threw and i never accept them to ever understand

people come to america to live a better life my mother came here because of war and thank u america for accepting her but what abought the other mother and familys that are trying to come here america just dont understand the struggle immigrants go threw and i never accept them to ever understand

people come to america to live a better life my mother came here because of war and thank u america for accepting her but what abought the other mother and familys that are trying to come here america just dont understand the struggle immigrants go threw and i never accept them to ever understand

WE LOVE YOU.......BUT PLEASE, PLEASE GO THE HELL BACK HOME!!!!!!!!!!!
We don't need you here, we don,t appreciate your bad and undeducated culture.Take your little babys with you and send them to school,educate them first to be better then you and later they can apply for a VISA to come here legal like other immigrants.Do not pay thousands of dollars to "JOSE" around the corner, for a fake ID, have enough guts to follow the legal process to be a legal citizen. And do not let your brain go to far, thinking AMERICANS are lazy, NO YOU LATINOS are CHEAP!!!!!!!!!!! Go home and we will be capable to take care of ourself without YOUR help. Personal I do not respect you for nothing. If you want a better life, you want to live here,than follow and respect THIS COUNTRY, and learn MY LANGUAGE because you are living in MY COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If not capable,then do not put me to understand you,or speak your language.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT RESPECT IS?????????????? I don't think so. Just GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

for all you racist people...
shut the fuck up!!!
MEXICANS are here to stay no matter what whether you like it or not... so live with it....
You can say "we love you but go back home" why dont you go fuckin live somewhere else!!!!
This whole white pride shit pisses me off and i think you white people need to stop trying to cover the damn sun with your fucken thumb and open your eyes and see what is really going on...
MEXiCANS do everything for you so appreciate it!!!

for all you racist people...
shut up!!!
MEXICANS are here to stay no matter what whether you like it or not... so live with it....
You can say "we love you but go back home" why dont you go live somewhere else!!!!
This whole white pride shit pisses me off and i think you white people need to stop trying to cover the damn sun with your damn thumb and open your eyes and see what is really going on...
MEXiCANS do everything for you so appreciate it!!!

lula has a point... and for the people that say illegal immigrants don't pay taxes so what about when they go to the grocerie store they pay taxes on the items they buy

lula has a point... and for the people that say illegal immigrants don't pay taxes so what about when they go to the grocerie store they pay taxes on the items they buy

CH has a point... and for the people that say illegal immigrants don't pay taxes so what about when they go to the grocerie store they pay taxes on the items they buy

I see it like this our ancestors fought for the right to be free and worked for the prosperity that we have today. And we are idiots to give our jobs to those who didnt inherit that birthright, it belongs to us, a gift ,its folly to give away a gift. Isee no problem with them doing farm labor .The government heals our recessions with the interest rate and the housing market ,now with the mexicans taking these jobs this nation is headed for disaster.

I see it like this our ancestors fought for the right to be free and worked for the prosperity that we have today. And we are idiots to give our jobs to those who didnt inherit that birthright, it belongs to us, a gift ,its folly to give away a gift. Isee no problem with them doing farm labor .The government heals our recessions with the interest rate and the housing market ,now with the mexicans taking these jobs this nation is headed for disaster.

All the mex,s send all the money home they can to go back and live like a king on later we are fools for allowing our government to sabatage the working class americans in this way what the hell are we supposed to do republicans dont give shit it dont hurt them. Our country heals the economy with the interest rate and the housing market thanks to the mexicans sending all their money home, that dont work no more. If this doesnt change were all in for a rude awakening these humble people will become monsters!

All the mex,s send all the money home they can to go back and live like a king on later we are fools for allowing our government to sabatage the working class americans in this way what the hell are we supposed to do republicans dont give shit it dont hurt them. Our country heals the economy with the interest rate and the housing market thanks to the mexicans sending all their money home, that dont work no more. If this doesnt change were all in for a rude awakening these humble people will become monsters!

All the mex,s send all the money home they can to go back and live like a king on later we are fools for allowing our government to sabatage the working class americans in this way what the hell are we supposed to do republicans dont give shit it dont hurt them. Our country heals the economy with the interest rate and the housing market thanks to the mexicans sending all their money home, that dont work no more. If this doesnt change were all in for a rude awakening these humble people will become monsters!

All the mex,s send all the money home they can to go back and live like a king on later we are fools for allowing our government to sabatage the working class americans in this way what the hell are we supposed to do republicans dont give shit it dont hurt them. Our country heals the economy with the interest rate and the housing market thanks to the mexicans sending all their money home, that dont work no more. If this doesnt change were all in for a rude awakening these humble people will become monsters!

All the mex,s send all the money home they can to go back and live like a king on later we are fools for allowing our government to sabatage the working class americans in this way what the hell are we supposed to do republicans dont give shit it dont hurt them. Our country heals the economy with the interest rate and the housing market thanks to the mexicans sending all their money home, that dont work no more. If this doesnt change were all in for a rude awakening these humble people will become monsters!

All the mex,s send all the money home they can to go back and live like a king on later we are fools for allowing our government to sabatage the working class americans in this way what the hell are we supposed to do republicans dont give shit it dont hurt them. Our country heals the economy with the interest rate and the housing market thanks to the mexicans sending all their money home, that dont work no more. If this doesnt change were all in for a rude awakening these humble people will become monsters!

All the mex,s send all the money home they can to go back and live like a king on later we are fools for allowing our government to sabatage the working class americans in this way what the hell are we supposed to do republicans dont give shit it dont hurt them. Our country heals the economy with the interest rate and the housing market thanks to the mexicans sending all their money home, that dont work no more. If this doesnt change were all in for a rude awakening these humble people will become monsters!

All the mex,s send all the money home they can to go back and live like a king on later we are fools for allowing our government to sabatage the working class americans in this way what the hell are we supposed to do republicans dont give shit it dont hurt them. Our country heals the economy with the interest rate and the housing market thanks to the mexicans sending all their money home, that dont work no more. If this doesnt change were all in for a rude awakening these humble people will become monsters!

We are allowing the government to frame the immigration problem for us. We must consider that in some cases, such as here, the government is not acting in our own individual best interest.

Thus, the term "illegal" associated with "alien" or "immigrant" is one of the government's invention.

What we as individuals must do is look at the problem from our own perspective. It is my understanding that this has not been done very often and has not been heralded very effectively.

The reality is that foreign nationals are in every recognized nation worldwide, creating a nearly fully integrated polyglot. To somehow require all these people to get their "papers in order" with respect to the local laws of each country is crazy.

There has to be a better, more accommodating, and global solution. Like a national identity card that is accepted worldwide. This different than a passport and should be a smart card with various data on it relevant to the bearer and the country he or she hails from.

Take a look at the end-to-end treatment of the immigration problem that has been prepared by Trigon-International, Inc. This is actionable, affordable, and feasible and more aptly it addresses the problem in situ meaning that the fix goes in without having to reset the pieces on the game board.